Commelinaceae - an interesting family
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Hi Lino,
that's fine; I believe Murdannia keisak is still unknown as aquarium plant in Germany. I've read that this species from Asia is naturalized in North Italy where it is a weed in the rice fields. Is Your plant from there?
I've got Commelinaceae sp. "Green" from members of http://www.aquaplantexchange.nl, if I remember right, Ronald (RPB) who has contributed the photo of the plant in our database. Till now I've cultivated it emersed only , also in normal moderately moist potting soil at the windowsill where it is as robust as other terrestrial Commelinaceae (Tradescantia, Callisia etc.).
Thomas Rudolph found out that this plant most likely belongs to the genus Floscopa, but the species isn't definitely ID'ed.
Greets
Heiko
that's fine; I believe Murdannia keisak is still unknown as aquarium plant in Germany. I've read that this species from Asia is naturalized in North Italy where it is a weed in the rice fields. Is Your plant from there?
I've got Commelinaceae sp. "Green" from members of http://www.aquaplantexchange.nl, if I remember right, Ronald (RPB) who has contributed the photo of the plant in our database. Till now I've cultivated it emersed only , also in normal moderately moist potting soil at the windowsill where it is as robust as other terrestrial Commelinaceae (Tradescantia, Callisia etc.).
Thomas Rudolph found out that this plant most likely belongs to the genus Floscopa, but the species isn't definitely ID'ed.
Greets
Heiko
Hi Lino,
I've found the beginning of Roberto Pellegrini's article on Floscopa scandens:
http://www.rareaquaticplants.com/le-pia ... amboo.html
but unfortunately the link doesn't lead to the full article. I'm curious about the literature Roberto used for the ID, and if he could definitely exclude other similar Floscopa species (about 20 species worldwide).
Greets
Heiko
I've found the beginning of Roberto Pellegrini's article on Floscopa scandens:
http://www.rareaquaticplants.com/le-pia ... amboo.html
but unfortunately the link doesn't lead to the full article. I'm curious about the literature Roberto used for the ID, and if he could definitely exclude other similar Floscopa species (about 20 species worldwide).
Greets
Heiko
Hi Ronald,
because this Commelinaceae (likely a Cyanotis sp.) was traded erroneously as Arthraxon spec., I named it Commelinaceae sp. "Arthraxon", admittedly an unfortunate choice of name because Arthraxon is a genus of the Grasses (Poaceae).
I'm curious about the mystery how You hobbyists in NL and Belgium grow it successfully permanently submerged while others failed with the plant. Does it still well also in Your tank?
EDIT
As far as I know, till now these Commelinaceae are known as aquarium plants:
- Commelinaceae sp. "Green" (Floscopa scandens?)
- Commelinaceae sp. "Arthraxon" (Cyanotis sp.?)
- Murdannia keisak
- Murdannia sp. "Red" (submerged leaves reddish, wavy, thin)
- Murdannia sp. "Green" (known to me only from few pics in the www and catalogues, similar to M. sp. "Red"with wavy but green submerged leaves)
In botanical literature one can find hints at quite a number of aquatic and semi-aquatic Commelinaceae. One should look out for such stuff in warm to tropic regions growing in water or flood zones.
Gruß
Heiko
because this Commelinaceae (likely a Cyanotis sp.) was traded erroneously as Arthraxon spec., I named it Commelinaceae sp. "Arthraxon", admittedly an unfortunate choice of name because Arthraxon is a genus of the Grasses (Poaceae).
I'm curious about the mystery how You hobbyists in NL and Belgium grow it successfully permanently submerged while others failed with the plant. Does it still well also in Your tank?
EDIT
As far as I know, till now these Commelinaceae are known as aquarium plants:
- Commelinaceae sp. "Green" (Floscopa scandens?)
- Commelinaceae sp. "Arthraxon" (Cyanotis sp.?)
- Murdannia keisak
- Murdannia sp. "Red" (submerged leaves reddish, wavy, thin)
- Murdannia sp. "Green" (known to me only from few pics in the www and catalogues, similar to M. sp. "Red"with wavy but green submerged leaves)
In botanical literature one can find hints at quite a number of aquatic and semi-aquatic Commelinaceae. One should look out for such stuff in warm to tropic regions growing in water or flood zones.
Gruß
Heiko
Hello Ronald,
how sad
Do You have a list of the lost special plants You are looking for?
Gruß
Heiko
how sad
Do You have a list of the lost special plants You are looking for?Gruß
Heiko
RPB
New Member
I'm back in business for 2 weeks now.
I got some plants from my friends from aquaplantexchange, but this is the list i'm still missing.
Ammania gracilis 'narrow leaf'
Bucephalandra motleyana
Clinopodium cf browneii
Commelinaceae sp green
Commelinaceae sp. "Arthraxon"
Elatine triandra
Eriocaulon setaceum
Hydrotrix gardneri
Hygrophila balsamica
Hygrophila odora (sp Afrika; sp Guinea)
Hygrophila pinnatifida
Hygrophila sp Thailand
Lagarosiphon madagascariensis
Limnophila "dwarf anubria"
Limnophila chinensis var. aromatica
Lobelia cardinalis "small"
Ludwigia senegalensis
Pogostemon erectus
Pogostemon stellatus broad leaf
Rotala indica/Lindernia sp. from India
Rotala mexicana 'Araguaia' (vroegere pusilla)
Rotala mexicana 'Goias'
Rotala sp 'mini' type II // Rotala Pearl II
Rotala sp 'Vietnam'
Staurogyne stolonifera (sp. yme-oides in thailand gekocht)
Tonina Fluviatilis
I got some plants from my friends from aquaplantexchange, but this is the list i'm still missing.
Ammania gracilis 'narrow leaf'
Bucephalandra motleyana
Clinopodium cf browneii
Commelinaceae sp green
Commelinaceae sp. "Arthraxon"
Elatine triandra
Eriocaulon setaceum
Hydrotrix gardneri
Hygrophila balsamica
Hygrophila odora (sp Afrika; sp Guinea)
Hygrophila pinnatifida
Hygrophila sp Thailand
Lagarosiphon madagascariensis
Limnophila "dwarf anubria"
Limnophila chinensis var. aromatica
Lobelia cardinalis "small"
Ludwigia senegalensis
Pogostemon erectus
Pogostemon stellatus broad leaf
Rotala indica/Lindernia sp. from India
Rotala mexicana 'Araguaia' (vroegere pusilla)
Rotala mexicana 'Goias'
Rotala sp 'mini' type II // Rotala Pearl II
Rotala sp 'Vietnam'
Staurogyne stolonifera (sp. yme-oides in thailand gekocht)
Tonina Fluviatilis
OK thank You!
A new aquarium plant, surely a Commelinaceae too, on aquaportail.com:
http://www.aquaportail.com/fiche-plante ... munis.html
"Commelina communis" - I'm sure that the name is wrong. Below a pic of true C. communis, with much broader leaves. The photo of the plant in the tank may show emersed leaves below and first submerged ones above, with wavy margin. Leaves also considerably narrower than in Murdannia sp. "Red".
-Heiko
http://www.aquaportail.com/fiche-plante ... munis.html
"Commelina communis" - I'm sure that the name is wrong. Below a pic of true C. communis, with much broader leaves. The photo of the plant in the tank may show emersed leaves below and first submerged ones above, with wavy margin. Leaves also considerably narrower than in Murdannia sp. "Red".
-Heiko
Heiko-68
Member
Hallo,
ich verstehe Englisch recht gut, jedoch kann ich mich nicht so gut in Englisch ausdrücken. Deshalb schreibe ich in Deutsch.
Beim Stöbern im Netz bin ich früher mal auf der Seite von www.ib.unicamp.br auf folgende Pflanzen gestoßen, die als Wasserpflanzen ausgewiesen waren:
Commelina diffusa
Commelina obliqua
In wie weit diese Pflanzen sich im Aquarium halten lassen, entzieht sich meiner Kenntnis.
Gruß
Heiko
ich verstehe Englisch recht gut, jedoch kann ich mich nicht so gut in Englisch ausdrücken. Deshalb schreibe ich in Deutsch.
Beim Stöbern im Netz bin ich früher mal auf der Seite von www.ib.unicamp.br auf folgende Pflanzen gestoßen, die als Wasserpflanzen ausgewiesen waren:
Commelina diffusa
Commelina obliqua
In wie weit diese Pflanzen sich im Aquarium halten lassen, entzieht sich meiner Kenntnis.
Gruß
Heiko